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October 28, 2009

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I'm not sure I fully understand which "Location" data the FamilySearch interface will utilise from my tree. I assume it will only look for the Full name and not the abbreviated name? Please clarify if known.

Why is US being used and not USA? The country is the United States of America.

Bob - currently in Legacy there are two parts of a location - the long location name and the short location name. Legacy 7.5 will look at the long location name, and if it matches the Standard Finder's version, it will add a copy of this location to the new "FamilySearch Standardized" name. If the long location name does not match the Standard Finder, you will have the option to map it to the Standard Finder version. It will be clear when you see it.

I did this and now am wondering that to do. The program added United States to MA, ME, & CT, to dates that are pre 1776, before the United States was organized. Do I leave it expanded to include United States or delete it?

Would appreciate your opinion on this matter. Thank you.

I currently use the words Township and County in the locations to make it clear what I am referring to. Would this not be usable in FamilySearch? For burial I would also put the name of the Cemetery first indicating that it is a cemetery. Such as Congressional Cemetery, Washington, District of Columbia. Would this need to be changed?

I just did a quick expansion of my data base place names for the USA only. It seems to work beautifully, including NOT expanding Pre-USA/colonial names. Am I seeing this correctly? If so it is awesome.

I followed the instructions but find that the "Expand/contract location parts" feature was inconsistent in it's results, not changing quite a few of the "USA" entries.

Example:
On one person there were these results:
b. in North Carolina, USA
d. in Jones, Texas, USA
buried in: Jones, Texas, United States

Why the inconsistencies? I have cleaned up my location via the master list, so they are consistently spelled.

Judy

Judy - the locations you've entered above haven't been entered with the leading commas for the missing lower-level jurisdictions. According to the standards for USA data entry, the places should be entered as:

b. in , , North Carolina, USA
d. in , Jones, Texas, USA

If they are entered this way, the Expand/Contract feature works correctly.

Having said all that, it appears that these standards are being revised, as the Standard Finder does not follow the comma-placeholder rules that we've had for so many years. Legacy 7.5 will have additional standardization tools to assist in achieving standardization.

Nancy, yes, this is a gray area. The Master Location List is just a list of your locations, without time periods associated with them. As the Standard Finder evolves to incorporate historical places, I'm certain Legacy will adapt to these situations as well.

Mary Beth - there is certainly nothing wrong with how you are doing this because you are following the golden rule of location data entry as explained above. Why don't you take a look at the actual Standard Finder database at http://labs.familysearch.org and see what it has to say.

How do I deal with the GEO Location Data Base for locations like Baltimore and Saint Louis? I don't know what county they are in; so I go to the GEO Location Data Base, and the counties come up as Baltimore (city) and St. Louis (city). And if I accept the place name as given, the next time I enter Baltimore or Saint Louis as a place name, I get the following message:

There was never a county by the name of Baltimore (City) in the state of Maryland.

(You should check the spelling or the original source documentation.)

I suppose I can assume that it should be "Baltimore, Baltimore, USA" and "Saint Louis, St. Louis, USA" [or would it be "St. Louis, Saint Louis, USA" or "Saint Louis, Saint Louis, USA"?].

Is this something that I need to play around with to see which designation is accepted when I next try to use the location?

Sharon, good questions. Though somewhat uncommon, these independent cities are usually handled by typing "Baltimore, , Maryland, United States". The Standard Finder at http://labs.familysearch.org uses both "Baltimore City, Baltimore, Maryland, United States" and "Baltimore City, Maryland, United States " as standards.

How are estimated places being handled in Family Search? I currently have most of mine with <> around the location. I am finding some with Of preceeding the name rather than the <>. I would like to change them all one way or the other. Can a tool be added that would help to standardize estimated places?

Carol - I haven't seen nor heard anything about estimated places. If I remember correctly, a long time ago Legacy had the ability to create these estimated places for LDS work, but the Family History Department asked us to remove this as their standards evolved. So we did. I'm pretty certain estimated places are no longer in use at FamilySearch.

We come from Derry City in Ireland. There are many "Derrys" around the world. Some people even call it "Londonderry". What should we do to prepare for 7.5?

Edna - do a search for Londonderry or Derry City at http://labs.familysearch.org and choose the Standard Finder. You can do this now, or use 7.5's built-in Location Stanardization tool.

Hi Which is the preferred country - United Kingdom or Great Britain?

The synchronization feature sounds wonderful on its face, however I have concerns.

When first getting into my families genealogy about fifteen years ago, I spent many an hour at the local LDS Library looking through all the records I could find on aparant relatives.

Even back then there were glaring errors. One person who was born in Colorado (my state of birth), and moved to Australia was listed as a Great-Uncle. Many years later through correspondence with an elderly relative in Australia, I found out who this person truly was. Yes, related, but quite distantly, and definitely not my great-uncle.

A few years ago, a well meaning semi-distant relative who devoted much of her life to family genealogy, submitted errant information. She knew I had a brother named Paul, and found a person with that name in a state he/we have never lived. She linked him as my brother and now that as well as all the other errant family data are gleaned by researches around the world using the LDS database as gospel.

What is needed perhaps more than a way to synchronize data resulting in corrupted personal databases that have been developed with proper research, is an easy way to dispute, unlink, and correct family structures.

Obviously many desire such a tool, and I don't know what it would look like myself. The necessary controls requisite to insure only valid corrections and submissions would by their nature be restrictive. A form of aritificial intelligence would have to be implemented to test "verified" links and then add, correct, or remove invalid links. A massive, complicated project I admit.

Having said all that, I NEVER use, and I discourage the use of the LDS database to new genealogists because of the numbers and extent of the gross errors it contains.

Mark - you're in luck. The features of disputing, unlinking, and correcting are all built in to the new FamilySearch system.

Plese put a PRINT This on your web site. I offten need to print but don't want all the extra stuff. I'd like to keep a copy of your helps for future use but have to copy & past to wordprocess so I don't get the whole web page.

Launa - I wish our "blogging" software gave us a print button for each article. In the meantime, just highlight the text, then right-click and select Print. This way you can print only what you have highlighted.

I checked with the Family Search Standard Finder and it does not put a cemetery name first (when I tried that, the Standard Finder just showed the town, county, state and country). I have many locations that start with a cemetery name, and I want to properly standardize my locations. How do I find out all the names that include the cemetery name in the location so I can put that information elsewhere in the individuals record (such as notes or sources) before I delete it by combining it with the standard geographical location?

Barbara - you are correct. Legacy's training video, "Mastering Legacy: Names, Dates, and Places" teaches to record the cemetery name in the "Burial Address" field, which is accessed by clicking on the Plus sign just to the right of the burial field. Here you can easily record the cemetery information, as well as use the Show List button to create a list of everyone in a certain cemetery.

To create a list of everyone in your family file that has the word "cemetery" in a burial location field, follow these steps:

1) Go to Search > Find > Detailed Search tab
2) Enter this for the Primary Condition:

Look for Whom: Individual
Where to Look: Burial Place
How to Look: Contains
What to Look For: cemetery

3) Click on the Create List button

Now you have your list of everyone who had a burial location that contained the word cemetery.

I put the street address in the location field for selected individuals so I can map them. Will I have to change this when I use FamilySearch?

A Reminder:

Access to the new.familysearch.org is currently limited to members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, although there are plans to eventually make it available to the general public. (At present, some LDS do not yet have access to it.) Owning a copy of Legacy 7.5 will not give Legacy users access to this database unless they are LDS and have registered at new.familysearch.org

Further to the United Kingdom or Great Britain question, as far as I am concerned neither are correct. Both of these refer to a group of countries, England, Ireland [now Northern Ireland], Scotland and Wales. Any individual with an event in any of these should be written so, i.e. born 1880, Pointon, Lincolnshire, England.
Hope this clarifies matters

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